Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise" (John 2:13-16).
Enter the POPE and the Vatican City .... Or that Monsignor Cox and a few hundred extra bucks in (1976) made me look like a Fine Irish Catholic in an Itialian Wedding. "He palmed the host and didn't allow me to swallow the wine."
But none-the-less Ca-Ching! From someone who could least afford it but just wanted to get laid. Then I found out had a groove thing with alter-boy Rayyy.
Interesting graphic, Ego...
Good to see you here HF...
Another version:
Ah, the literalist at work...-heywoodfloyd
Not really Steve... Realist maybe? no, that's not it, not sure what label I'd apply to myself. Pragmatist may be in the ball-park... After 38 years playin' the organ in Church and 25 years sellin' organs to Churches I can honestly say I have spent my Adult life in a spaghetti western... the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
Lots of Bad, even moreso the Ugly. But the Good that i have seen by a small handful of truly Dedicated Priests, Religious and Sisters have been eye-opening and awe-inspiring.
One day before I die I'd like to take a few months and put my memories down on paper in the form of a 100 page booklet maybe...
Don't have nearly enough time tonight to go into any kind of detail about it though...
Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise" (John 2:13-16).Enter the POPE and the Vatican City .... Or that Monsignor Cox and a few hundred extra bucks in (1976) made me look like a Fine Irish Catholic in an Itialian Wedding. "He palmed the host and didn't allow me to swallow the wine."But none-the-less Ca-Ching! From someone who could least afford it but just wanted to get laid. Then I found out had a groove thing with alter-boy Rayyy.
-hank
Never an Altar-Boy, Hank, sorry to disappoint. Started playin at the tender age of 13 in the Spring of 1971. That summer the regular organist took 3 months off and Fr. Marchand called me one night and asked if I'd be willing to play 3 Masses a Sunday and He'd pay ne $10.00 a Mass!!!!!! More $$$$ per hour then my Father was making.
and the rest, as they say... is History... ;-)
Just got "tomorrows" cartoon at 3:22am... Is this still today...? and since I haven't gone to bed yet I'm still on Thursday's clock Sounds like a question for Ego.
Anyways, I digress...
TOUGH TIMES AHEAD, PILGRIMS!
Ray...Admittedly I am not as "schooled" as you are in the when, where, why of the history of religion. I will not argue this subject with you but simply added my viewpoint to the conversation.
The point of my post is...WHY ..if ultimately we are all believers in GOD, do people continue to think that their particular chosen sec should rule over all others. I understand where the Catholic name came from and who John the Baptist was and I also know who Martin Luther was. There are flaws in each separate sec...Martin Luther called for a reformation of the Catholic church due to the issues of it becoming too "man made". This has become an issue for every single sec under the umbrella of religion.
Just because something has lineage doesn't mean it is perfect or right. That applies to anything.
Like with politics, we all have a point of view on this issue. I will respectfully disagree with anyone who says that they have a more direct communication with God because of the name of their church or simply because they attend one.
EOM
Hey Pollie... (and Steve and Ego and Trac)
Since you all seem to have issues with the Great Cathedrals of the past I found an Altar at which you can worship!
Please leave the seat down for Trac...! ;)
Just had to share this...
http://www.optionaddict.net/blog/2008/8/13/maybe-next-time-hell-think-before-he-trades.html
Morn all.This religous banter is more dangerous than politics by 100 fold.Religion has been the root of probably more wars than any other cause.The wars we are in at the present are certainly because of our meddling in countries that take severe offense to people not respecting their traditions.Least thats the way I see it.My view of big churches are slightly tarnished.They have a tendency it seems to preach they are the only way to redemption.We all know this not to be true.As the bible has one simple statement & it has nothing to do with church going."whomsoever believeth in me shall never perish".Very plain & straight forward are those words.They need no explanation or do not have to be administered by a man of the cloth.My personal opinion of church going is it has very little to do with religion but more to do with financial aspects.I need not some one to point out things around me to be a believer.I have only to look & now that as Einstein said "the scheme of things is too orderly to be happen chance.The intristic working of all things in relation to everything else is surely by design.I bow my head to our father,not people who think they are important.I need not attend an edifice to the vanity of all to see of my declaration.If I build a gawdy edifice am I not saying to the world"praise me for my glamorous spectacle".Anyone notice the simplicity of the amish.
Is not vanity one of the seven deadly sins?Just take a look around.Look at yourself & your country or community.Everywhere you here"take pride".Is this what the bible teaches?The woman that incessantly preens or the guy that spends untold amounts of time shining his car as if it is a extention of his personality or self worth.In America we can do this or we can do that better or we have bigger.That is the bull we use to keep people chasing the buck & to keep the classes separated.I just dont buy those crappy theories.I am what I am.No less no more.The worlds opinion is not something I will use as to the measure of who I am.I never have & never will.If thats what floats someone else`s boat,I say good for you,but don`t expect me to be impressed.Im more impressed by the guy that takes time to elp his fellow man without expecting Kudos or remuneration.Or he guy that takes the time to make sure the child crying is OK.Or doesn`t judge everyone by what they are wearing or what neighborhood they live in.Every man or womans story is different.
Ray....LOL! Nice picture. Thanks for the kind consideration re: the seat.
A few quotes from one of the true angels to have walked this earth who just happened to be Catholic:
....Kind words can be short and easy to speak but their echoes are truly endless.
....Do not wait for leaders, do it alone, person to person.
....There are no great things, only small things with great love, Happy are those.
Mother Teresa
Good thoughts huh Ray. Especially that first one! :P
Sermon over.
Ive been watching the mess with the auto industry.They are trying to figure if & why they should bail them out.It will take a lot of study to get at the criteria that should be met to qualify this latest bailout proposal.Over the last 28 yrs Detroit has run amok,building gas guzzlers like there was no oil shortage.They have been in a competition among theirselves to build the biggest wastrel in the world.I think they finally did it when GM took over Hummer.This is the ultimate gas guzzler.These were build to carry troops not a couple skinny asses up & down the road to the mall or a PTA meeting.A damn Sherman tank only uses slightly more fuel & takes up slightly more space.What the hell is wrong with this picture?Hell its a major chore for most people to park one of these big vehicles.Detroit has been hell bent to churn every penny of profit out of the company into dividends & bonuses for execs.To hell with reducing debt & putting anything away for future financing or retooling.No everyone says,we`ll take the profit & if we need something crucial to the business in the future we`ll borrow it.Bet they didn`t see this financial mess coming.Of course how could these damn so called financial geniuses see the subprime crises coming.Hell they couldn`t even guess that oil was going to get higher.How in the hell can anyone call these dumb SOBs geniuses?No wonder people think Im a pessimist.Look who they think is smart.The high price auto worker is going to make concessions as is the huge profit margins on durable goods.Life is going to change.Frugality will likely rule again as it did after the 29 crash & the ensuing depression.Unless I miss my guess by a long ways,the most modest life style is going to be the enviabe position.The keeping up with the Joneses is going to be going to the dogs with the Joneses.That lifestyle is going to have a cash burn rate larger than the revenue income for the families that try to maintain the status quo.In the end should we give money to them or should we just give money to the people to prop up the economy?Is there a difference?One seems to be as responsible as the other.At some point it seems to me we will have to reach a bottom anyway.Maybe the faster we get there the sooner we start rebuilding & restructuring a lifestyle that is practical &able to be maintained.
Tractor Girl, I am a practicing Catholic as is the daughter {14} that I am raising. That having been said, don't forget that there is often a big difference between "god's will" and what the sectarian Christian community attributes to god's motives and intentions. Always seems to me that we should all be on the same side, my dad was Lutheran and I don't see him in my imagination as being in disfavor in the afterlife just because he was not born & raised Catholic. Even in politics, my belief is that with adequate information most smart people will agree on fundamental concepts, with the rest being strategy & tactics to get to those good objectives. Keep posting, girl....you are helpful to us all, not to mention you keep us from strangling each other ..... lol JunkyardDog
JYD,Well said!
I believe its time to turn the page on the religous issues.That is a subject that can not be sorted out to a conclusion.Politics bite hard but at least the election gives us a mandate for four years.That is a done deal.So I think maybe,the economy may be a more worth while thought,being it effects each of us in many ways.Time to mend fences.
I was over at stockwire for a while.Nothing really changed they want to live in the past.all I have gotten is more of the same pissing & moaning & conjcture of how its going to be tax & spend & such shit.Everyone with the fingr of condemnation,but not a one with a plan to help the economy.If you cant offer help or a way out,then why do you have a right to condemn those that have balls enough to tackle this damn mess made by others.We damn sure didn`t pass this damn mess to the last administration.Pisses me,they make the mess& either cant or wont fix it & have the damn audacity to criticise others that know it has to change or keep getting worse.
Now answer me this.Do you think this is just another oversight or was it reported erroneously on purpose as to affect the election.These numbers are so far from the true number its hard to fathom being a legitimate mistake.Just more lying to the American public for control in my opinion.I see no other way to interpet it.How could I possibly endorse people that affiliate theirselves with these atrocious actions.Just read read the following from headline news today.
October's decline marked the 10th straight month of payroll reductions, and government revisions showed that job losses in August and September turned out to be much deeper. Employers cut 127,000 positions in August, compared with 73,000 previously reported. A whopping 284,000 jobs were axed in September, compared with the 159,000 jobs first reported.
Pollie...
I hate to say this my friend, but you really are a chickenshit!
Here's a recent post by NDSSLOMLUCK (or whatever the F**K his name is)...
Pollies, I don't claim to be the smartest dude around or evn close to it but I have my opinions, I would like to know what you would do to get businesses back to hiring and expanding. I don't mention the people because I think that if business is booming then people get hired and then they do better and so on. I could be wrong but I'd like to know your opinion. Not to knock it but to know how others think and hopefully learn something. I would pose this question to any of you folks and I'd also like to say that I'm sure opinions will be different and I ask that everyone who has a difference of opinion at least be nice. That includes RAYYYY
Now that doesn't sound like the same ole, same ole to me... does it to you???
You posted your usual cut and paste post about CNG and then took off over here where you can rant and rave to yourself, then when I put the hammer down on ya' Trac comes along and takes me out with a few sentences...
We're gonna have some fun over at Stockwire so I plan on spendin most of my time over there from now on...
you're certainly all welcome and besides, SW has Smileys!!!:-0)
Gettin' a little tired of watchin' the same ole' porno here too
Guess you don't like it when somebody pulls your chain too hard Pollie... big talk from a small man!
As to religion, all my posts were just to get Pollie annoyed, which seems to have worked. JYD--my Sainted Mother--may she rest in Peace, was Lutheran as well, my Father belonged to the Polish national Catholic Church. I have no doubts as to where they both are now!!!
My thought on the subject was best summed up by Mark Twain..."Man is the only animal who knows the one true God... all 127 of them"
Have a nice day
the "DUKE"
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