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Im moving past the election or conjecture of what they will do.Im more interested in how things will be overcome.We need to worry about how to save this fiasco we have at hand.I dont no longer care about who caused what,but rather who is going to fix it & how they choose to go about it.Its getting time for the government to keep passing out money to every one that has had a bad year.if some businesses with bad practices go under,so be it.Someone with take the place by the void created.That is the way I actually feel about the auto industry.Banking should be bailed by the FDIC for depositors.The bad mortgage paper should be handled by private industry.Break Freddie & Fannie up & sell then off.Bring the troops home immediately.To hell with Iraq or Iran.Let them fight it out.They would not spend a day of their time helping us.Same in afghanistan.I would make a world proclamation.I say we will mind our own business & leave you alone to govern in your own way.If you act towards us with aggression threating our safety we will show you the reason we keep nukes.I dont want involved in the worlds affairs,our domestic affairs are in shambles from just that reason.Its like the woman thats so busy attending to her friends that she neglects her own house.After a while even they call her a pushy busy body.

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The war wasn't so unpopular when it started, so what you really mean is if we were told the truth or if there really were WMD's found it would have been ok. The fact is most people approved of the war when it started thats a fact. Tax cuts don't gaurantee jobs but tax increases don't either. Both have been tried and both have failed. Dems were just as negative as Repubs so don't say only the repubs were pulling that crap. And if you turn on the news you still got dems talking negative and the damn thing is over. Businesses do layoof when people are short of retirement and that sucks but the bottom line is a business has to survive and make money, thats why they were started and making good biz decisions doesn't mean it's a good morale decision. Before you devote your whole life to one company you have toi ask yourself, can I do this and retire on what I save. DON"T RELY ON YOUR COMPANY TO DO THE RIGHT THING!!! And certainly don't think that the government imposing laws on companies to do that is a good thing either. There's always a way to make things way worse. Pollies you think the GOP needs to go I think the GOP and The Dems have to go. The Dems have had two years to try and get things going in the right direction and they havent done it and Bush was blamed they padded their own pockets. now they have to get it done or their ass and Obamas is on the line.

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What the hell matter does it make what kind of music the man likes.I havent like most music since the end of the Vietnam era,but have been a devout country music lover.I dont consider the hats off movement like marty stewart to be true country.Allan Jackson,Travis Tritt,Sammy Kershaw are a few of the later country stars & music I feel holds the tradition value of country.But how he decides to dress is his business as long as it is not vulgar.You are blowing shit about the SS.They will not embarass the country with gawdiness.They are still hand picked & approved by the FBI.So blow your country hick wit to a hick that`s dumber than this old country hick.The people including a hell of a lot of republicans voted for Obama.Do the math.The Republican strongholds like Florida fell.Even Texas & Arizona gave Obama a big portion of the vote even though he didnt win them.The GOP better be thinking how to get with the program of what really matters.Character assassination is not at the top of the list.Wars are very unpopular with American people.They have found out they were lied to & are pissed about it.The economy is where peoples hearts will always be.Tax cuts dont mean shit if you dont have a job.Tax cuts dont guarrantee more jobs as we have witnessed in the last 8 years.In fact it has been quite the opposite effect.Government Can stimulate new jobs way faster than the private sector.The private sector has a tendency to get complacent & stagnate.When big business get their coffers full & the first sign of a downturn comes they downsize & eat their own fat til times start getting better again.Only then do they start rehiring.They love this policy because it helps them to keep retirement salaries down.People work 15 or 18 yrs & get laid off short of retirement.When company starts hiring again they have lost their time or have relocated to another job.If you think that the big corporations dont figure these things way down the line,you had better think again.If I can figure this so can an accountant or CEO.

-polliesboy

Pollie... I must'a dozed off and missed somethin' here... who the hell r u replyin' too with the hat thing?

BTW---Alan Jackson is MY MAN!!!

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what about the people with issues like paying their bills should they go under as well. I'm with you as far as businesses that made bad choices should suffer but so should people. Rewarding anyone or any business for not doing what they say they would do is not could government but an enabling government that will only put a bandaid on a gaping wound

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Like I said Im a liberal to a point,but not past the point of what makes sense in a practical manner.Im not a conservative in the manner of only spending the tax payers money & letting the largest amount of money traveling through the system have a free ride.Make all you can but not you but your money will be taxed according to the needs of the recipient.If you pay 100 million in taxes but still have 40 million clear of expenses,you still have a hell of a lot more than you need.So intead of saying of give me a break & i`ll create jobs.I`ll save you the trouble I`ll take it & create the jobs.That way it saves you time & aggravation of how you will get around taxes or how you`ll create new jobs.I`ll show you & you can use your extra time to go fishing or go shopping & buy a new farrari.With $40million you can still afford several.You wont even have to worry about charities.i`ll give it to poor people for medicine & shelter & food.How bout that.Look I have sved you even more time & expense.

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yes Pollies but you would only get that person once. The next year that dude is gone to somewhere that he knows that wont happen again and the other folks that see that will do the same so that program would be short lived but the really bad news is the jobs they take with them. Oh and by the way. You don't think the guy needs all that money but somewhere somebody thinks the same about you. So where does it end. Whats the magic number that you think everyone in the US should have yearly?

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polliesboy, i was wondering how long it would take for you to get back in the saddle after the death of your brother. well it looks like your spunky self is back, which is a good thing for all of us. you are our gadfly, and we all benefit from your posts. junkyarddog
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oh and with that magic number who has to do what jobs. Cuz if everyone gets the same money I don't want to be the guy who has to dig ditches I want to be an exec

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Oh the people paying bills.Now that depends on what ills they think they need to pay.According to the way things have been maybe only food matters.Of course people might find out how important it is to their existence if poor cant pay their bills.The middle class may find a new standard of living.Of course the poor can do with out while the middle class can spend all that money they put away while they were living in the thought that the poor could only exist by the grace of the middle class.I believe someone should study economics 101.If the poor could be organized.The wealthy could be brought down in no time as their fortunes disintegrate.You would truly see who is really dependent on who.Going to let you in on a little secret.You can not eat money,oil, gas,gold or silver.ou can not eat them 4 wheelers or them fancy houses.If your hungry you will trade everything you have for a meal.Food is even more addictive than dope.You can give up everything except eating.Try it sometime.Listen to a hungry baby wail because of lack of food.Then think What you would sacrifice to another man to share his food.You`ll find that he will not be envious of you material possessions,but you`ll envy him his full belly.

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I have never advocated socialism.Your the one that is being irrational.Its either let you have it your way or I wont play.Well my friend so long as you are a passenger on this spaceship earth you will play & the rules may change.Then you either adapt or cease to exist.Your going to find a lot of situations in your life that you have no control of.Im not advocating all or none,but a little more parity.

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Pollies you seem to think that people that have made money can't fend for themselves. And if the poor organized what would they do exactly? And who would pay for gas? LOL,. ? Pollies you seem to think that the rich people or companies dont play a role. so maybe you need economics 101

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Pollie's favorite song...

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Pollies, Today if someone is retired at 62 and up to (x yrs?) like Rayyy the Wal-Mart greeter, are allowed to earn (y Bucks Max?) before they have to forgo $1 for every $3 earned. How come they stop working when they max out?

It must be that they have aquired all the money they need.

-hank

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Pollies you seem to think that people that have made money can't fend for themselves. And if the poor organized what would they do exactly? And who would pay for gas? LOL,. ? Pollies you seem to think that the rich people or companies dont play a role. so maybe you need economics 101

-ndssomluk

NDS... Please escuse Pollie as his ignorance is still showin'... I told him to start wearin' hoop skirts the other day but since I'm a Republican he ignores me...

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Is anyone else having trouble playing the videos?

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I think that people need to view this election in the right context.This was not about black vs white.Here`s something to consider when thinking that obama was not the popular choice of most americans.The population of blacks in America is 36.8 million.They make up only 12.8% of our total population.This is very imortant to realize.It should send a message to Washington.We are tired of your shit & looking out for the wealthy.Now hears another thought to ponder over 200 million of the people are considered to be poor.This leaves less than 100 million to be comprised of wealthy & middle class.Now who do you think does the bulk of the hard work?Its simple deductive reasoning.Which group possesses the most pairs of hands & backs.The Rich & middle class ride the hard work of the poor class.That is where thy sell their goods & services.Don`t never lose sight of that fact or you end up living in a fools paradise.

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NSL,Like I said.If their is only one choice to make.A million dollars or a poor mans meal.Do you think a hungry man will give up his meal for your money.if he has no one else to sell hm a meal he tell you keep your money.People tried to buy seats in life boats when the titanic was sinking.Guess how much that money meant at that moment.

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I never said that people without money can't fend for themselves on the contrary I think that all humans can do whats neccecsary to make a life but when you give people something for nothing and make that a habit you take away their ability to survive on their own. But I don't understand why you think because someone prospered they should be punished can you explain that for me, help me understand why that is. and by the way I have had times in my life where I had nothing, lived in my car which was a POS and had little to know food, it wasn't fun but I worked my way out of it. If I can then so can anyone else. I don't live in a big house 1400 Square feet and I don't drive fancy cars 04 jeep (base model) and a 74 wagoneer. I do however put a priority on my futer retirement than expensive things now

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pollies I think your wrong, I think a poor man would take the money being greedy and then find out there's no food to buy

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I have never said the working class don't matter I'm well aware of this but what working man doesn't want more money? Some are content with their roles in life or are unwilling to do whats needed to move ahead thats their fault not anyone elses. So is it your position that 200 million in this country are considered poor and that 100 million are considered wealthy or middle class, are these the numbers you want to stick with?

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