Pollies gunslingers or mudslingers.

Lets give the good old GOP their dues.You know why they say they dont rise income taxes.2 things for starters.First they tax other things that still come out of your pocket if your aren`t wealthy.Another is when they make continuous deficits they never pay their bills,they just add it to the national debt.They mislead the public with these ploys.Nope they dont raise income tax.They just get up from the table & let someone else pay the tab.I think these are called users or moochers if you will.Now after looking at the last 4 republican administrations,Please show me were they cut government spending.The facts & figures dont lie folks its right there for all to see.Anybody still buying those lies about the conservative party?

Now with all things being considered about character.It would certainly seem to me we should consider the real issues should be the deciding factor.Shit slinging is not going to be advantageous to the McCain campaign.In my opinion tax cuts are a non issue & should not even be considered until the national debt is paid off.Creation of jobs,stopping the war in at least Iraq should be a top priority.In my opinion Homeland security is mostly bull & needs to be trimmed down immensely.Since Defense is about 70% of our budget & the main cause of budget deficit it needs to be pared down to manageable rates.This can be done after bringing our troops home as to not endanger their lives while still in harms way.Since the goverment doesn`t pay interest on our taxes that are overpaid,I dont think we should be incurring bills with foreign countries & paying a half trillion a year in interest on the national debt.

Something tells me this muckraking & character assassination isn`t working the way the republicans thought.Kind of hoping to pick up enough congressional seats to make a veto proof majority.If we get a full majority,we may get something done.Bush enjoyed that for several years & squandered his chance to do something for the people that make the difference.I heard something stupid come out of a republican on TV today.He was talking about workers that dont pay taxes because of their low income.I dont know anyone that dont pay taxes.Every dollar you spend is taxed somehow.A lot of time its built into the price,but nevertheless the taxes are paid.

Everyone pays social security.The poor earner pays on every dollar.The wealthy have a cut off point that they dont pay SS on above that.

In 2007 the government budgeted $16.5 billion for welfare for the needy.In 2007 the government spent $92billion on corporate welfare.This year we are going to spend at least $1trillion more than that on corporate welfare.Folks 16.5 billion is peanuts along side of what the government spends on other things.I want you to look at this waste on interest to other countries & then tell me how wasteful welfare is.At least the welfare money gets spent at home & helps supoort jobs in supermarkets & many other businesses.Remember the $16.5 billion for welfare,now compare to the interest going overseas that we see neither benefit from.Pure dead waste.

Past Military,
$484 billion:
• Veterans’ Benefits $94 billion
• Interest on national debt (80%) created by military spending, $390 billion

I have no problem with the veteran benefits.But I do have a hell of a problem with the one underlined.

I've read all 8 pages... good read.

I noticed the people over at Stockwire are starting to use the phrase "if Obama gets elected"
quite a bit. Sounds like the troops are getting worried.

Tractorgirl: Please DON'T be speechless, like you said you would become. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we may disagree, but you have a refreshing civility in your tone that I would miss if you opt oout of participating further. JunkyardDog

Pipa,everything that I have posted is out there for the whole world to see.Its not things I`ve made up or embellished on or twisted.The ones that chose to be offended by my diatribe are the ones that refused to inspect there horse before the race.I can`t help what George Bush has did to his party.To me he just expose them for what they stand for.I was a registered republican for 20yrs before changing my affiliation.I got pissed with them when they crossed the line with the Clinton investigation.They spent over 100 million on the white water scandal to look for illegal doings by the Clintons.Instead they let Kenneth Starr delve into Clintons personal life.No matter how many women Clinton had it was not in his realm to be investigating this.It was purely a political agenda.It was payback for Watergate scandal.The dems didn`t dig to find out about watergate.It was reported to police by a tenant in the building that seen suspicious lights.Anyway when I saw how damn dirty they play I no longer wanted anything to do with the party.Im was ashamed of them for the impeachment proceeding they wasted all that money on & all the time that our congress was tied up.The hell of this is the GOP knew they could not possibly get the votes required to impeach him.They made a conscientous decission to waste our money.More of that conservatism.They spent another $100 million investigating steriod use by pro athletes.Why do I care about that.They said it was a bad image for our children.Have they thought of what kind of image they have been setting for people of all ages.

Tgirl,all this stuff thats being put out about Ayers & Vogler(AIP) is mainly subterfuge to lead us away from the issues.They want people to concentrate on people instead of the issues of the economy & the way things have been handled.I refuse to buy into their ploy.The GOP says ooooooh Obama is going to spend,spend,spend,.Well isnt that the pot calling the kettle black.The gop has out spent every democrat for the last for GOP administrations.They also have never had a balanced budget.They always leave more legacy debt for the next administration.Tax cuts the republicans say.They have yet to find a damn way to pay for a tax cut without borrowing money from someone else.Thats not a tax cut.That buying a present you can`t afford with a credit card belonging to the taxpayer.How magnanimous of them to buy me a present with my money.

Im sorry I get so wrung up,but Im highly insulted.The GOP thinks they`re going to play me like some uneducated school kid.Obama`s half black.big deal.Is that suppose to scare me.I dont think so.At least he doesn`t try to hide from it.I suspect if anything,having to deal with that Half &Half deal has made him a stronger person.His father took off & left him and his Mom to fend for theirselves.I think he`s made a good showing for himslf,considering the adversity he`s dealt with.He`s rose above his meager beginnings.As Teddy would have said"BULLY FOR HIM".If he could face those adversities & overcome the hate & jealousy of his endeavors,I think the task ahead of him as president will be another time he will rise to the occassion.

Tgirl,We dont need another general,we have quite enough of them at the damn pentagon.We need a president.Foreign policy should not be a primary concern.Domestic policy is far more pressing.

Pollie, don't you think that our Domestic policies are really a part of global economics,
thereby requiring a strong Foreign policy?

By STEPHANIE STROM
New York Times
October 10, 2008

The group, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn, has long been a favorite target of conservatives. It made news this year when it was revealed that a brother of Acorn’s founder had embezzled almost $1 million from the organization but that Acorn had failed to disclose the theft for eight years.

“Barack Obama has made very inconsistent remarks about what his relationship with this organization is,” Rick Davis, Mr. McCain’s campaign manager, said in a conference call.

Mr. Davis said Mr. Obama had worked as Acorn’s lawyer and conducted training events for its leaders. He also noted a payment the Obama campaign made in February to an Acorn affiliate, Citizens Services Inc.

While Mr. Obama did represent Acorn in a lawsuit in 1995, Acorn was on the same side as the Justice Department. The training events involved two hours of work. And the payment to the Acorn affiliate was reported in campaign filings, although they had to be revised because of an error.

The Obama campaign described the accusations as a spurious effort to tie Mr. Obama to potentially fraudulent voter registrations.

“Barack Obama strongly condemns voter registration fraud or any other breach of election law by any party or group,” Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman, said in a statement.

Acorn, whose political action committee has endorsed Mr. Obama, has said that the investigations into its voter registration work are politically motivated.

“Rumors of Acorn’s voter fraud have been greatly exaggerated and to a large extent manufactured,” Bertha Lewis, the organization’s interim chief organizer, or chief executive, said Monday in a conference call to announce that the organization had registered 1.3 million people to vote.

Ms. Lewis said it was Acorn itself that informed state officials about some questionable registrations collected by its employees that are now under investigation. Acorn said it had terminated the workers involved.

Mr. Davis urged reporters to question Mr. Obama about training sessions he had done for Acorn. “What were you teaching them?” Mr. Davis asked. “Were you teaching them how to evade the law?”

Lewis Goldberg, a spokesman for Acorn, said Mr. Obama conducted two leadership training sessions of roughly an hour each for Acorn’s Chicago affiliate over a three-year period in the late 1990s. He was not paid for that work, Mr. Goldberg said.

Even before Friday’s conference call, Republicans had made much of an $832,598 payment made in February by the Obama campaign to Citizens Services Inc., a consulting firm affiliated with Acorn.

“This organization is not just related to but deeply ingrained in the Acorn organization, a front group for Acorn,” Mr. Davis said.

The Obama campaign initially reported that the payment was for “staging, sound, lighting” and other advance work when it reported its expenditures with the Federal Election Commission. It filed amended reports in August and September to reflect that those payments were for get-out-the-vote efforts.

Mr. Davis contended that the original filing was an effort to “hide the fact” that money was paid to Acorn. But F.E.C. officials have said such amended filings are common.

A change of pace from politics.

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