More politics by Pollies Pilgrims

Camer,fortunately I believe the market will recover the most of the losses when they get these bail out bills passed.Unfortunately for the tax payer it will be years getting straight.I do believe that the way they are structure these bills will cause the tax payers to recoup the most of their money in time.

This trillion loss in the the market yesterday is only if the dumb asses sold stocks off other than the financial sector.If you sold things like Microsoft or Apple or GE because of this mess,then you need your head examined or your a daytrader anyway.This trillion will rebound in those type of stocks,just as they are doing this morn.The scare tactics are bullshit.

PolliesBoy: Glad to hear you are resilient to some of your critics who get a little carried away at times. I strongly agree that we can be polar opposites and still treat each other with dignity and respect. Without civility there is no order, because everybody stops running their brain on logic and kicks in the afterburners with a lethal fuel mix of bravado & testosterone. Look forward to hearing from you early and often. JunkyardDog

Market holding up quite well without bill. Maybe changes can be made that are better for EVERYONE and we have another vote on Thursday.

I think investors that have had money on the sidelines stand to make quick easy money from this point.I heard a couple of analysts on TV say something that might make sense.Let the FDIC bail the Banks out & let the next administration &next congress deal with the bailout,being they are the ones that will inherit it.I think the christmas season is going to look like the grinch stole christmas.i believe this has been one of the main concerns all of a sudden.The big box retailers put the bite on Bush`s people.Now think about how much this makes sense about what I just say a sec ago.Putting this is pespective with the bailout terms.Remember how they have been talking about also buying bad credit card debt too.OK,folks there it is.Credit & Christmas go together.Christmas sales taxes fill the coffers folks.You think about what happens if the big box retailers start going belly up.Without the seasonal revenues,there is a very distinct possibility of this happening.Do you have any idea how many people would be put out of work.25% to 30% unemployment may be a conservative number.So I think maybe the taxpayers & politicans better get their cushy jobs out of their minds for once & do what is right whether its unpopular with taxpayers or not.The taxpayers are not aware of the ramifications of this situation.This is one time he needs uncle to save him from himself.

One of the greatest financial bills of all time is the creation of the FDIC.It has kept the banks from all folding.No one is even mentioning the holiday season sales yet.This has to be figured into the equation.No one is saying anything because they dont want people to thik ahead.They want to control people with the fear of the moment,not long term fear.Folks you better start thinking ahead,because they are not.

Junkyarddog,you being a lawyer,Dont you know someones ear you could drop my concerns over the possibility of a failed retail holiday season?This could have very serious ramifications on the economy as retailers do more than half their overall sales in that period.

I don`t believe that.I no longer than ask 5 mins ago about the holiday season & there was a mentioning & little feature on CNBC about retail suppliers & the credit crunch.Damn that was quick.

Just like in his murder trial it looks like OJ has managed to go from being the attacker to the victim in the sport memorabilia case. To bad people like him never get a break!

Ive been watching the bailout proceedings so close I forgot to watch the REDSKIN/COWBOY game sunday.My team actually whooped the Cowboys true too form sore asses make a big deal about a victory dance by Rock Cartwright.Damn crybabies.Bet even Ray enjoyed that after listening to Cowboys this that & the other all last year.Even if skins dont win another one all year this one is sweet.LOL

Dennis thing have a way of evening their selves out in the long term.Judgement day is coming.Some get their just deserts earlier than others.When it comes to OJ no one knows the truth for sure except the dog & so far he aint talking.

I had a couple things on my mind in past couple weeks,only one is coming to mind right now.I have heard a lot of people bitch about too much government.They apparently think that less government means more money in their pockets because there would automatically be less tax.WRONG!!.Your life would be decidedly different,you are right about that.Had it not been for senator Sherman & the antitrust laws we would have been slaves of big business.The Taft/Hartlet Act tried to do just that when they made it illegal for unions to strike.Now for all you people that doubt the ties of big business & republicans,look no futher than the Taft/Hartley act that made it illegal for organized labor to strike.Now I know the first thing someone will point out is Senator sherman was a republican.That is not the case in the truest sense of the term.The true republican party as it is today never came into existence til 1912.Before that it was the democratic republican party.The republican party was an offshoot of the democratic party.The Antitrust laws are actually a democrat bill.Here is the truth of when the republican party came into existence.

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The Democratic Party is one of two major political parties in the United States, the other being the Republican Party. It is the oldest political party in continuous operation in the United States and it is one of oldest parties in the world.[4][5][6]

The Democratic Party traces its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and other influential opponents of the Federalists in 1792. However, the modern Democratic party truly arose in the 1830s, with the election of Andrew Jackson. Since the division of the Republican Party in the election of 1912, it has consistently positioned itself to the left of the Republican Party in economic issues and libertarian on social matters. The economically activist philosophy of Franklin D. Roosevelt, which has strongly influenced American liberalism, has shaped much of the party's economic agenda since 1932. Roosevelt's New Deal coalition usually controlled the national government until the 1970s.

The Bailout Defeat: A Political Credibility Crisis .

Wonder why we have a credibility crisis with our government.Nixon lie & covered up Watergate.Carter couldn`t make up his mind & could retrieve the hostages from Iran.Reagan Lie about Tax cuts & Iran Contra affair,Clinton lied about Monica lewinsky & Paula Jones & other affairs.Then we come the master criminal & his henchmen.He has let them steal everything except the kitchen sink.Gave every damn thing to the rich & wealthy.Lied about WMDs in Iraq.Everything he has done has been based on a lie.Jeez wonder why people don`t trust politicans.Oh & the presidents own people have turned their back on him.Hell Nixon & Reagan`s people didn`t do that.I guess the republicans are getting tired of cleaning up the embarassing crookedness of their leaders.Oh & McCain only tells one or two lies a week.I think they have him on a quota.His latest is the one trying to cover for Palins stupid ass.He said she was a victim of the gotcha press trap.Yeah I know that one.Its the one where they ask you a question & you try to fake it & get caught by the whole world.LOL. Gotcha!!Of course McCain has flip flopped so much he can`t even remember what he stands for.I guess he forgot to tell Palin what his latest stance is.

I just finished watching Tucker Bounds who is the head of McCains campaign.He said McCain is in congress where he should be during this crisis.He said hes thinks he should be there instead of phoning it in.Which he has been doing anyway even though he`s in washington.LOL.Now being he said he should be present doing his job,tell me this.Where was he 64% of the time he didn`t vote on congressional bills? He has the worst voting attendance of all the senators in Washington.I mean top of the list worst!!Now he`s concerned.What a damn hipocrit.He has missed so much,he has no damn idea what has been going on.

He just did an ad showing Biden saying that Obama was voting to cut off money for equipment to troops in Iraq.This is false.Obama voted to not approve money without a withdrawal date.What Biden was talking about in actuality was McCain voting to cut money off because the bill had a withdrawal date.Obama voted for that one.It got passed.The troops never did without for one second inspite of the wrangling back & forth.McCain ad is a lie because the video clip is edited to say what he wants you to hear.I remember the statement when Biden made it.Nice try McCain,try again.

If McCain loses theirs a lot of asses going to jail.He wont be able to cover their tracks.Cheney has been odered to save & produce all his VP records.This purge will go deep.

Ive been watching the bailout proceedings so close I forgot to watch the REDSKIN/COWBOY game sunday.My team actually whooped the Cowboys true too form sore asses make a big deal about a victory dance by Rock Cartwright.Damn crybabies.Bet even Ray enjoyed that after listening to Cowboys this that & the other all last year.Even if skins dont win another one all year this one is sweet.LOL

Here's my comment about dem Cowgirls from Dallas... any other comments?

Oh yeah, just one... WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!

-polliesboy

I don`t believe that.I no longer than ask 5 mins ago about the holiday season & there was a mentioning & little feature on CNBC about retail suppliers & the credit crunch.Damn that was quick.

-polliesboy

wHEN THE great pollie SPEAKS... MERE MORTALS TREMBLE IN FEAR...!

No flag pin for barack!

You don't have to love the flag to be President. What a poor excuse for an American.